EP 13 Living Off Menu: Worthiness, Permission, and Small Experiments with Marie Smith | Deep Work Out Loud
Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes coach Marie Smith, founder of Golden Hour Coaching, who shares her path from teacher to personal trainer to life and health coach after hearing a clear spiritual prompting to become a life coach. Marie discusses the idea of “living off menu,” inspired by Glennon Doyle’s story about ordering beyond the menu, and connects it to agency, permission, and creating a life beyond inherited expectations. The conversation explores purpose as “being” rather than “doing,” women’s conditioning around worth tied to productivity, domestic labor and mental load, and learning to receive help. Marie offers practical steps to begin: journal desires, list the reasons you think you can’t, challenge them as if advising a friend, choose one small experiment, and act. She shares where to find her and a Stress SOS guide via text.
00:00 Welcome to Deep Work
00:37 Meet Marie Smith
01:33 Her Coaching Origin Story
03:41 Hearing the Call
04:34 Living Off Menu
08:06 Permission and Agency
09:05 Purpose as Being
12:08 Worthy Just Because
16:15 Moms Dads and Bedtime
17:57 The Menu We Inherit
19:04 Double Standards Trap
20:04 My Life Is Mine
20:53 Quiet the Inner Critic
23:50 Small Off Menu Experiments
26:58 Learning to Receive Help
28:53 Asking for Help After Surgery
30:59 Journal Your Next Step
33:50 Find Marie and Wrap Up