3/23/26

EP 13 Living Off Menu: Worthiness, Permission, and Small Experiments with Marie Smith | Deep Work Out Loud

Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes coach Marie Smith, founder of Golden Hour Coaching, who shares her path from teacher to personal trainer to life and health coach after hearing a clear spiritual prompting to become a life coach. Marie discusses the idea of “living off menu,” inspired by Glennon Doyle’s story about ordering beyond the menu, and connects it to agency, permission, and creating a life beyond inherited expectations. The conversation explores purpose as “being” rather than “doing,” women’s conditioning around worth tied to productivity, domestic labor and mental load, and learning to receive help. Marie offers practical steps to begin: journal desires, list the reasons you think you can’t, challenge them as if advising a friend, choose one small experiment, and act. She shares where to find her and a Stress SOS guide via text.


00:00 Welcome to Deep Work

00:37 Meet Marie Smith

01:33 Her Coaching Origin Story

03:41 Hearing the Call

04:34 Living Off Menu

08:06 Permission and Agency

09:05 Purpose as Being

12:08 Worthy Just Because

16:15 Moms Dads and Bedtime

17:57 The Menu We Inherit

19:04 Double Standards Trap

20:04 My Life Is Mine

20:53 Quiet the Inner Critic

23:50 Small Off Menu Experiments

26:58 Learning to Receive Help

28:53 Asking for Help After Surgery

30:59 Journal Your Next Step

33:50 Find Marie and Wrap Up


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