EP 12 Humor at Work: Levity, Creativity, and the “Yes, And” Mindset with Connie Liu | Deep Work Out Loud
Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes executive coach and two-time founder Connie Liu (CEO of Tandem) to discuss humor’s role in work, leadership, and coaching. Connie shares that her path to coaching began after hiring an executive coach during her transition out of her first company, valuing coaching as a place to be fully honest without “curating” for others. They explore humor as a release valve that extends emotional runway, reduces high-stakes pressure, and increases creativity—especially through improv’s “yes, and” approach and design-thinking environments that normalize risk and riffing on bad ideas. Connie describes using standup comedy as a counterbalance to founder seriousness and as a way to practice levity, while both reflect on when humor is welcomed or risky at work, including for women and in highly serious roles.
00:00 Welcome and Format
00:35 Meet Connie Liu
01:09 Connie’s Coaching Origin
02:31 Why Humor at Work
04:10 Standup as Counterbalance
06:09 Humor as Release Valve
07:15 Making Humor Feel Safe
09:07 Creativity and Yes And
13:40 Dog Interruption Reset
14:12 Lightening the Room Fast
16:03 Can You Teach Funny
16:23 Rule of Three Parenting
17:53 Sarcasm and Pranks Roots
18:36 Back to Executives
18:45 Personality on Calls
19:25 Creating vs Reporting
20:22 Finding the Right Balance
21:07 Sales Stories That Land
21:51 Standup Fear and Dares
22:49 Bombing and Getting Hooked
24:14 Comedy Style and Influences
24:57 Work Persona and Gender
28:41 Founder Seriousness vs Humor
30:18 Keeping Perspective at Work
31:37 Key Takeaways and Farewell