5/26/26

EP 22 Dr. Matt Kodsi on "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves" | Deep Work Out Loud

Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes encore guest Dr. Matt Kodsi to discuss his book, "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves," and his journey into writing. Kodsi explains how people fill gaps in knowledge by creating stories—often with a negative bias—and shares examples.  He describes the book’s short, parable-style format (about 72 pages; 1 hour on Audible), its framing as a Zoom conversation between a corporate executive father and journalism-major daughter, and its ABC framework for examining stories and their impacts. Kodsi outlines a planned five-book series on presence, life strategies, organizational culture, and identity, notes the book’s addition to the University of Georgia MHA curriculum, and shares where to buy it on Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and Audible.

00:00 Welcome and Format

00:31 Encore Guest Matt

01:22 Why Write a Book

02:22 Stories We Tell Ourselves

03:55 Real World Examples

07:11 Stories About Ourselves

08:13 Building the Book Plot

12:31 Series of Five Books

15:55 Catching Your Own Stories

19:38 Who Its For

22:28 Where to Get It

23:38 Closing Invitation 

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Find Dr. Matt Kodsi here

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